“Lots of people like me and I think very lowly of you.”?????? That might have hurt my feelings in 3rd grade, but that was a long time ago. Who are you trying to convince anyway???

Keep up the good work Donna.

And look at what you do! You are promoting Black Hat Software! That in itself says a lot about your integrity. Yeah sell Black Hat software to newbies and get them banned. You are real helpful.

Donna

As a new Turbo Member. Especially if I was a beginner starting out. Am I worried about joining a community or am I looking to create the foundation or enhance a business I already have? Being trusted is important and I apologize once again for my disclosure. Not being trusted ever again seems a bit harsh don’t you think? I mean, does the punishment fit the crime? Do new TMers want an environment where they are afraid to make a move without checking with John or his inner circle first? I would like to think someone who is a new member is just trying to figure out what the membership involves, not worrying about anyone else. Is that reasonable?

As for Trust, I hope that everyone reading this can see that all I have done is voiced my honest opinion. I acknowledged what I did wrong, even though I didn’t realize it at the time. I PM’d John Delavera and he accepted my apology. He acknowledged that in the Warrior Forum as well. Part of integrity is admitting when you are wrong and owning up for your mistakes. I would like to think I have done that.

As far as how I conduct myself, you should take a look at yourself and how you have presented yourself here and in the forums because I have not met an Internet Marketer who has been more unprofessional in thier representation of a product or service. I certainly wouldn’t want you representing anything for me based on what I have seen. The Turbo Memerbship is a separate entity all together from your personal conduct. John Delavera has always displayed the utmost professionalism from what I have seen. But for you, name calling and other blather is not what I would call that acts of a true professional.

Nathan’s comments above were very professional. You should take a lesson or two from him.

You never will get it. YOU broke trust by posting confidential information on an open forum, thus proving you are not a trustworthy person. How did you ever expect to be welcomed by TMers who are taught by John that one’s integrity is worth much, especialy in the IM world? If you think I was hard on you, that is what you deserved for breaking trust.

Fortunately I am in John’s inner circle. Why? Because I proved my trustworthiness, my integrity and my loayalty long before I become part of Joun’s inner circle.

Yes, I am part of John’s inner circle and I am damn proud of that fact. I am proud to be trusted by John that he even wants be in his inner circle. I am in a position a lot of people envy. But again, I got there my proving myself to John.

Too bad you will never be in that position. And yes, I know you will say that it doesn’t matter to you. But you should take lessons from John on how to conduct yourself.

I find it funny that you were kisked out of The TM and now you put it down. Coincidence? I think not. I think retaliation is exactly what your ploy is no matter how much you deny it.

You proved you are not trustworthy so I hope everyone that reads your review realizes that and does not trust you one iota.

Donna Walsh
Long Time TMer and PROUD Of That Fact

I am happy that the Turbo Membership provided you with what you needed when you needed it most. I think that all the qualities which you stated are important for someone starting out. If John Delavera’s system pointed you in the right direction. Great. I couldn’t be happier for you.

That is why, as I said before, if this offers the tools you require as a beginner, go ahead and join. The value for me, personally is not there based on the things I outlined before. Plus, I do not need to be taught the things offered there, thus the value for me is very limited in that aspect.

I couldn’t agree more about the fact that having your own Hosting and Autoreponders is essential to running your own business. I wrote a review here on this blog about what I considered to be the top rated membership site software products. I said in that article that the only reason Fantasos was not in my top 3 was because it was a hosted solution and it tied you to the Turbo Membership or to someone else’s Fantasos installation. When I heard that Delavo would be released as a self hosted script, I wanted it immediately because I already knew the capabilities of the software and was interested in centralizing my business.

Everyone should know the facts about Memberships like this before they get into them. Ultimately, if this article and the comments posted here help even a few people make an informed decision as opposed to an impulsive one, then I achieved what I set out to do.

Thanks for your great comments man.

John is well aware that most people starting out have no clue. And thus he has made things in a way that they can get one and start making money.

Does $147 represent a lot of money?
may be to some, but in order to start any business they would need far more than that.

The membership has been improved and simplified, this is the new way of doing things, Just like with Delavo, things are done in a way that it is VERY simple to understand, follow and start.

John does not market hope, he markets a true plan to follow, and not many people quit, as a matter of fact, as I mentioned, it took me a while to be in the front lines, YET I NEVER QUIT, and I never aimed to be in the front lines.

I have quited all memberships except 4, and this is the most important one of all.

Not only that, many people claim the same thing, “I have tried this and that untill I FINALLY reached Turbo Membership, and that is where I stayed”

When John writes an email, and asks for it to be a secret, he is not making a marketing ploy to play with people’s mind, he literally is asking for that, and your repetitive way of still disclosing that in forums and other places still shows that you are not getting it.

You might be very good at what you do, and you might not like things that are not for you, but be careful not to drive people that could trust you or follow you away from something good.

And yes, people will pay what ever is needed to pay in order to make their online business, John knows that it is not a smart move for ANYONE to trust in someone else with their business, having your business hosted and your autoresponders hosted THROUGH a membership is a very dangerous move, even if they are being gifted and given by any membership at any cost, you should always have your own control over your own hosting and autoresponders.

I knew this when I started out, and I was unemployed for over a year. every thing I could muster to get together I put into my online business, now I never look back.

This is probably why John decided to remove those, it is a hard lesson to learn, and it is hard for him to do so, John always over delivers.

I think that you are actually missing the big picture.

What is of value in the membership is actually having John teach you how to build your online business, it is a process that requires a lot of preparation, yet he does it masterfully.

It is a shame that you will not be able to see this, but if I were you I would definitively consider thinking twice about putting more negative comments about something that is literally helping hundreds.

Nathan

Your name is mg2953 I see. You are obviously not hiding who you are Mary Grace.

I appreciate that you like many others received a ton of email from Donna Walsh. I can see through my Stats Program that I have received over 10 Unique Visits from her DLWalshMarketing email (Squirrel Mail) account asking people to come and put their comments here.

The Turbo Membership is not looking better. Based on the nastiness displayed here I can see it is a community I definitely do not want to be a part of. It is not important to me one way or another. I wrote my review based on my experience with the Turbo Membership and while there are some good parts, the overall value (for me) is not there. I do business my way, you can continue to do it yours.

If there is anyone who has had experience with the new Turbo Membership and is NOT an old member still receiving the old benefits? Please post your comments. I would appreciate a real point of view from someone just starting out who hasn’t been asked to post a comment here.

OK, if it isn’t, then what is? Which of your torrent of affiliate promotion offers is going to build me a solid business?

Or is your answer to go out and splatter my own ocean of affiliate links all over the Internet? Or perhaps black hat stuff, Mr. “Hide Behind WhoIs Privacy”?

Who are you, anyway, and why should anybody — least of all I — listen to you? Right now, your remarks are being made by a totally anonymous individual. Why should anybody listen to you?

Your remarks are without merit, especially when you consider that, as of now, they are written by an anonymous individual who is out to collect affiliate commissions using (apparently) black hat techniques (which will most likely either get customers or sites like Google extremely upset).

Turbo Membership is suddenly looking a lot better, isn’t it?

Here’s hoping that hundreds of people read this post, see how silly it is, and go check out Turbo Membership — as I have. Or should I just buy every other offer you make on this blog, go broke in the process, and go out of business due to a lack of focus?

mg2953

P.S. — At least Donna Walsh is helpful. You might be better off re-joining, swallowing your pride, and figuring out how things really work.

I would like to see the cancellation stats for this membership. If they are the same as most other memberships like this, then the rate is fairly high. If you read this blog then you will know that I know my way around this business pretty well. This blog is just a snippet of what I do. My business is mainly focused on PPC and Affiliate Marketing. What I do know is the Guru’s like Kern and Filsaime market to newbies almost exclusively because most people buy this stuff and don’t use it, but still buy more. I know that this is what the price increae is all about.

If I am a newbie and I don’t know anything, the TM is a very intimidating membership. It is very unorganized. A new member has to go to the forum for help. Most will not want to.

At $147 per month for a beginner who might not have the capital to start; how many months till they make their money back? Or do the quit because of the challenge and they just wasted hundreds of dollars. If I was asked by a beginner if they should join this membership, especially now that a newbie has to go and pay the additional $24.95 ($19.99 and $5 for the autoresponder and hosting). Now that newbie, even though the Blue Book does say you don’t need the autoresponder right away, will probably buy that stuff.

Now they are actually paying $171.95 per month for a business that isn’t even started yet! During a recession!!! I can make a lot of recommendations for a better and more cost effective way to start out than that. Believing in the Turbo Memerbship doesn’t do anything for an empty bank account.

1 Month ago, if you chose not to get the Hosting and the Autoresponder, what was the price of this membership? $67/ $77?? I can’t remember. I know the option was there. So you are telling me that by subtracting those from the membership, that one month later, this same membership is worth paying $147?

Not to me.

I stand by my review. I highlighted things that I thought were good and I highlighted things I thought were bad as I good review should.

Was I kicked out of the Turbo Membership? Yes I was. Did I agree with it. No. I was a member for about 4 days when I received an email which said in the first or second paragraph that it was confidential information, do not tell anyone outside the TM what is in this email. Without thinking, I admit, I talked about the information in a heated post in the Warrior Forum. (See the entire Thread here.) In that particular email, it was stated that Turbo Members could get a substantial deal on the Plugins for Delavo. Now, most marketers use this type of promotion to lure new members into a membership. People release the information and it results in more sales becasue people want the benefits of membership. I believe that is the result of my slip of the tongue. My big release of secret or confidential information was telling everyone they could get save money as a Turbo Member on the Delavo Plugins and how they could do it. Anyway, I didn’t really take note of the fact that this information was “really” supposed to be a non release item. My fault. I fully admt it. Should I have been kicked out of the TM without even being talked to about it as a brand new member? I certainly do not think so. To me it doesn’t show support for a new member and the backlash from Donna Walsh, ONLY Donna Walsh in the Warrior Forum (as you can read above) shows me the extreme bias that Donna Walsh has towards anyone who does not do what Donna Walsh wants.

As everyone can see by reading the thread from the Forum linked above, and from the comments here, Donna Walsh makes a living from her business with the Turbo Memerbship. As she states in the Warrior Forum thread (I Quote: “I voted you out!”) So if Donna Walsh has veto power over other members, I would say she is part of the inner circle with John Delavera (as she claims proudly in the thread as well). There is no doubt that you have taken this review personally Ms. Walsh and I find your replies to still be extremely unprofessional and in my opinion, I find it hard to believe that you help anyone with your business but you.

MWright: While I value your opinion as well, I have to tell you that I am sure there are a lot of happy Turbo Members. I am assuming that since you have been a TMer for over 3 years, you also are still paying just $97 per month and you have your hosting and Turboresponders account still correct? Yes, as Donna said in one of her many rants here, John has been saying for months he was going to raise the price of the Turbo Membership, but she and others, are also assuming that everyone even knew what the Turbo Membership was before the Delavo launch. I don’t thiink this is the case. The rush of new members is because of the Delavo launch. I am sure most people do not even realize what they were not getting in comparison to what is available now. So just becasue you knew it, doesn’t make a difference to someone who is just beig introduced to the program. I also noticed that your email address is turboview@ which tells me that your business interests also lie with your ability to promote the Turbo Membership in a positive light. I appreciate that.

I am not putting any blame on others and the fact that I was kicked out of the TM does not have anything to do with the reality of what is inside the memerbship. Please correct me on the Blue Book and it’s methodology. Tell everyone here what the software products are in the Gold Glub and how they are great products and when they were made. Also, explain the points system and tell me how I am wrong about the fact that you will have to stay a TMer for quite a while to reap the benefits of the 400 products in the Turbo Vault.

Backup your comments here with facts about the memerbship, not “I’m a TMer and it is Great!”

Am I bitter about being kicked out of the Turbo Membership: No. The main reason is: I did not join it to become part of the community. I joined becasue of Delavo and the Plugins. Like I said before, I have a thriving business in which I do not need the products from this memberhsip. As many Internet Marketers alreay know, there are a lot of memberships out there that offer better quality products. Maybe not as many different products, but higher quality.

I do not hate the Turbo Memerbship. Like I said in the review, there are some good products, but when all is said and done, the residual effect is that I don not belive the value is there for $147 a month for the rest of my career. My memerbship with SENuke brings me in 4 times what I pay for that membership and it is just a promotional tool.

By all means, if this memership has what you need for your business or it has the business model that you want to follow, please stay or become a member.

I could easily join again under a different account name with a different PAYPAL account, but I won’t because I don’t think it’s worth it.

You review seems harsh and very biased, you think that the value of a membership is a 5 dollar per month hosting and a 19 dollar per month autoresponder account?

REALLY?

Is that all that is needed to win your heart?

There are reasons why the turbo membership is what it is, and there is a reason why John has gone to all the trouble of making products that his Turbo Members can earn 95% commissions from, you might be a very advanced user but I guess you are not as fast grasping concepts, most people do not know how to start creating products, or getting them and setting up sales pages and autoresponders and thank you pages and everything else that someone HAS to do, and thus John just made it easy for them to simply start promoting THEIR PRODUCTS (yo do understand that a 95% is 100% minus credit card fees right?) and start making money, building a business online RIGHT AWAY.

So unlike other marketers that teach and people have to learn and study and practice and go through the motions and the paces BEFORE THEY SEE 1 DIME in return, John makes it possible for everyone to start right away.

WHAT ELSE would you like them to be able to sell right away other than the things offered here?

Please man, when you review something, stop thinking you are high and mighty and know it all, you sure show that you have no understanding of where the real people are, where the people that are starting out are, and you definitively are saying the wrong things about one of the best (if not the best) internet marketing memberships there is.

You can google me also, and you will probably find that I am also involved in the Turbo world, but I am involved because I BELIEVE in it, I have been a customer for way longer than my involvement in the front lines, and it is my understanding of these concepts and these principles that John holds that made me want to be part of the front lines.

You can ask me if “I have made any money” and yes, the answer is THANKS TO JOHN DELAVERA I have a better understanding of Internet Marketing and how to treat my customers, THANKS TO JOHN DELAVERA I am constantly improving my sites.

So Mick, I would suggest you let go of you hard feelings, look at things from the perspective of the advanced marketer that is way out of the reach of the potential new marketers that I assume are the ones you are writing this lines for.

By telling then that something THAT IS ACTUALLY EXTREMELY GOOD for them is not, you are actually harming them.

Also, if I recall you were kicked out for being un-trustworthy, you divulged things that were not supposed to be divulged to the public, what does that say about your integrity as a human being?

I know that I could not trust your words just because of THAT fact.

Nathan

I must say you have it all wrong here. I have been a TMer for over three years myself. I have never seen such a dishonest review of turbomembership and John in all my years online. This review is coming from someone who has failed. Instead of admitting your mistakes and learning from them, you have to put the blame on others. The sad part is you will get nowhere in life or IM if you continue to have this type of mentality.

Mike

If you had read my very first post, you will see I have been a TMer for over 3 years. I think that makes me more qualified to tell people about the memberhip then someone that was a member for 3 days and was kicked out. You did not quit, you were thrown out.

And you review sounds like a bitter retaliation because you were.

And of course after being a TMer for 3 yeats, you are going to see that John and I have a friendship. But many TMers have a friendship with John, not just me.

You are saying I am biassed because I am a long time TMer and I am saying in response that you are bitter because you were thrown out.

And there are many people well known people who are long time TMers. Would they have stayed if the TM was as worthless as you are trying to make everyone believe? Maybe I should post some of the very positive things new TMers are saying about the TM so people get the right perspective, not the perpective of someone that was thrown out.

Donna

Again jumping to conclusions and making statements without knowing the facts. That is what got you in trouble with the TM in the first place. I thought you might have learned your lesson but obviously not because here you are doing it again.

I volunteered t hold these workshops. John is not paying me to do them nor was it his suggestion that I hold them.

So again you are completely wrong.

Donna

You are just pissed because you were kicked out of the TM.

John told everyone for months thatthe price of the TM would go up so why is this such a big surprise to you? Again, you are just usingthis review to strike back because we voted you out of the TM.

Yes I am making money as a matter of fact and quite a bit. I also make money from selling the products in the Software Gold Club

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So this confirms what I suspected before, you work for John Delavera, thus your opinion is not an opinion. It is marketing.

Thanks.

I agree that some of the products are good. Here is my problem. The price point on the Turbo Membership just went from $97 per month to $147 per month. The previous version of the membership before June 1st allowed you to have all of these same features, plus Hosting and an Aweber clone (Turboresponders.com) account as part of the membership. Now those features are not offered and I have to pay more. $50 more. The products that I said were junk above are just that, junk. The Software Gold Club’s software products haven’t been updated in 2 years and the software wasn’t worth buying then. The point system only allows you to get one or two products from the “Turbo Vault” of 400 products each month. There are a lot of PLR values out there which make this membership obsolete. Delavo is an awesome program. I love it. I don’t love it for $147 for the rest of my career.

This is all my opinion and is based on what I would require from this membership. Some people might agree with you and decide that the features you outlined are enough to make the Turbo Membership valuable. I on the other hand do not.

The only additional problem I have is that after Googling your name (see results here), it appears that you are a part of John Delavera’s inner circle and part of the Turbo Membership. You have actually written some of the tutorials on his products, correct? For this alone, your opinion here does not hold any value. Since you are part of the Turbo Membership and not just a member, that tells me your opinion is biased in favor of the company because of your current association with them.

Thanks for your comments.

No wonder you are posting a review like this.

You failed to report that there are 1 on 1 Skype consults offered free to all TMers. 2 workshops every month on various subjects and 1 hands on workshop every month to help newbies with setting up their blogs, autoresponders,forums, etc. And these are recorded for viewing by anyone that can’t attend these conferences and workshops.

And PRICELESS is that you also get John Delavera’s help.

I think the ebook and script I get every month are of very high quality. Plus I get access to Turbo PLR, a $67 a month outstnding package for only $7 per month. I have saved $60 just there.

So I get ePLR at no chatge and that is regularly $27 per month and save $60 just on TurboPLT plus I get video clips, music by one of the leading producers, and much more.

I am sorry you did not see the value inthe TM. But I am sure glad I did. As I say, “I would starve before I ever gave up my Turbo Memberhip” and I mean it.

Donna Walsh